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Dear All

We have VIM2 , but unfortunately, we don't have IP for It, the question is there any way to find the Ip so we can communicate on it by using VIMNET explorer and check if it has a configuration.

Many Thanks

Hassan.hameed
  • Jhad Hanon
    Hello Hassan,

    You can always connect to the VIM network with any random IP with a newly set VIO file and you should be able to find the unknown IP VIM in the decommissioned VIM nodes, if you don’t have the Old VIO, you may opt to reconcile everything to match the ViM configuration so you don’t end up losing the previous configuration.
  • Hassan.hameed

    In reply to Jhad Hanon:

    Hello Jhad many thanks for the reply, So that means when I connect through VIMNET explorer by using any IP I can find the VIM in decommissioning node then I can know the IP for this VIM, this case if the VIM is under decommissioning but if it already commissioned should follow up same steps, can find the VIM under IO Net?
  • Ashley Davey

    In reply to Hassan.hameed:

    Hello Hassan,
    You can recover the IP address using "Wireshark".
    Let me know if you need help with this.
  • Jhad Hanon

    In reply to Hassan.hameed:

    It will always land on the decommissioned VIM even if it’s commissioned previously and will show you it’s commissioned but in the decommissioned VIMs.
  • Hassan.hameed

    In reply to Jhad Hanon:

    Hi Jhad , Thanks for continuous support, our case is this VIM it has shown commission as shown on its LED but in deltaV land modules it shows Red X with ?, I check the 3rd part devices they connected and have updated data by using Modescan32 software, I tried to access to Vim configuration through Vim explorer but when opening it nothing appear just default page,I didn't have VIO file so is there any way to access on VIM explorer to see the configuration.
  • Jhad Hanon

    In reply to Hassan.hameed:

    Hi Hassan,

    You’re welcome man, anytime :).

    I’m assuming you don’t have the system running right now, if yes, then we can make sure to be able to reconcile, right click on that VIM and see what are our options that we have? You may need to rebuild the VIO file, it won’t take much of time if you know your 3rd party device addresses.

    Do you have any mapping list? More info? Go to DeltaV Diagnostics to the VIM devices and right click on any dataset and check the configuration, does it show any ip address there? If yes, go ahead and copy these addresses, this is your first solution if the reconcile fails.

    Regards,
  • Hassan.hameed

    In reply to Jhad Hanon:

    Hi Jhad

    Actually, I will summarize what I have and what did, we didn't have VIO file, so I use IP scan to find IP that use in VIM and 3rd party, then I open VimNet on a laptop without a firewall under decommission list I found our VIM ( physically it commission and in software it shown commission in software)   then I created new controller and go to VIM in decommission lit right-click and select recover configuration and select a new controller that created then reconcile vim did that also with secondary card.I get the configure all IP that shown in device  same that use in 3rd part , but when go to deltav diagnostic  I can see the card try to ping with IP but it fails, as shown in the snapshot

  • Hassan.hameed

    In reply to Hassan.hameed:

    Also, I want to add new information I hope it will help us to solve the issue I checked the Dataset on properties find the data start address is start from 1 it shows R2 and continue to same number of value, but in mapping list is 40001 is that make any sense.
  • Jhad Hanon

    In reply to Hassan.hameed:

    Hi Hassan,

    Have you tried to ping the devices that uou have connected to the VIM network with the laptop that you have? If the VIM is not able to see the devices, there’s a chance the devices are off, register shifting wise is not a big problem, if it was already implemented this way I wouldn’t touch it for now, try to ping the 3rd party devices and see if you get them communicated with your laptop.
  • Hassan.hameed

    In reply to Jhad Hanon:

    Yes there is ping with this IP
  • Jhad Hanon

    In reply to Hassan.hameed:

    Let’s sort this out, you can ping your VIM and you can ping the 3rd party devices but the VIM can’t ping the 3rd party devices 10.11.1.3? Go to your internet browser and type in 10.11.1.3 and check out the settings, make sure the Modbus/tcpip is enabled.
  • Hassan.hameed

    In reply to Jhad Hanon:

    Hi Jhad
    The issue was solved by decommissioning VIM and reconfiguration again, just one question customer want to add register for read and write is that possible in VIM use one register for read and write
  • Jhad Hanon

    In reply to Hassan.hameed:

    Hello Hassan,

    There’s no possible way in the modbus standard to have the same register as a read and write, VIM won’t be able to do that because it follows the standard
  • Jhad Hanon

    In reply to Jhad Hanon:

    Side question:

    Does the 3rd party device support the read/write on the same register? If yes, you can use2 different modules with 2 different registers ie: R1 one is input and one is output, this could help but still I don’t see how that could work
  • István Orbán

    In reply to Jhad Hanon:

    I have not implemented it in the end, but at a time I was looking at it, and seemed possible. Define an output dataset, enable Output readback, and then, if the slave supports readback too, you could potentially use that dataset as both input and output. You'd need to build your custom logic in an ACT/CALC block to read a value, then write another one, on the same dataset.

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